Welcome to PloneEdu!

Welcome to the PloneEdu general discussion forum!

You can find all PloneEdu topics here: https://community.plone.org/category/ploneedu

Please refer to the http://plone.org/edu folder for information about PloneEdu. We are interested in your:

  • use cases of Plone - how you use Plone, including add-ons
  • descriptions of how you deploy, maintain, and support Plone
  • organization of your local Plone user groups
  • URL of your events, news, and other information we could aggregate
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Hi @tkimnguyen

Great initiative :smiley:

And what happened to all the information recorded in ancient PloneEdu website?

My suggestions

The twitter account https://twitter.com/PloneEdu is necessary:

  • Announce of this new information, maybe can write a news item in a blog.
  • Update the URL to this new http://plone.org/edu

Also I think this news should be announced into PloneEdu list.

My proposals

I created an Github organization https://github.com/PloneEdu to push Plone products for the education sector created or some configurations recomended by PloneEdu community.

For example, I remember that there is a buildout configuration recommended for PloneEdu websites at this SVN repository https://svn.it.uwosh.edu/svn/plone/buildouts/ploneedu/ .

Why not migrate these code and practices for the community to github? then we will can:

  • Update it to latest Plone versions
  • Create a Plone distribution based on these source code and configurations.

http://plone.org/edu/ is not available anymore?

Looks like it was made private through a misunderstanding. I had put up some basic "about us" content but we were also working on migrating content to it that we had been working on at PSM13. I will look into how to leave some public content there while that work continues.

OK, the "about us" is back up and publicly visible! Thanks for catching that :slight_smile:

Leonardo: thank you for the great suggestions and your start with the Github repo.

I will update the PloneEdu twitter profile with the new URL.

I was waiting for us to have made more substantive progress with the new subsite before sending out a general announcement to the mailing list, because we should include in that message instructions on how to use this forum and to set up email notifications for the PloneEdu tag (I have yet to try to do that myself!)

The old PloneEdu site content: I have an export of that somewhere but mostly that content was created in 2010 and sadly was neglected except for a small subset of pages. That is why at PSM13 we decided to start over again with a much smaller amount of content that we could reasonably expect to keep up to date.

I love your idea of reviving the PloneEdu buildout! :slight_smile: Then I'd like to find a way to add that ploneedu.cfg to the Vagrant installer for Plone and to have a one-click "Try PloneEdu" button for Heroku. What do you think?

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https://twitter.com/PloneEdu has been updated with the new URL and a profile picture.

Thanks @tkimnguyen also update PloneEdu github organization :smile:

Hi @tkimnguyen

I understand the precautions before publishing the statement to the mailing list, and my interest in the old site is that there were several cases of success of PloneEdu to resume in the new subsite :wink:

I totally agree that he should make a ploneedu.cfg file for various installation modes, further I think we should provide a distribution based on the unified installer for countries whose infrastructure Internet connection is very slow, so in this way solve greatly facilitate the installation and configuration of a PloneEdu site.

Many developing countries have serious problems of Internet connectivity, eg Venezuela, whenever a new user in Plone decide to test this technology in most cases, choose not to deploy Plone your website, because they have many problems when trying to have a Plone successful installation with a connection of less than 1 MB.

In Brazil, Jean Ferri is a Interlegis Project member, he resolved this problem by creating a distribution of legislative councils in Plone by creating a custom Unified Installer.

Maybe @smcmahon can guide us on the best way to solve this!

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Hi @macagua :slight_smile: I will locate the old PloneEdu site content and will post a link here.

I'm glad you explained the importance of a distribution (based on the unified installer). @ericof would want us to do this! (ie. have a PloneEdu distribution, in addition to something already online like with Heroku).

@smcmahon kindly showed me at the PSE12 sprint how to incorporate additional buildout configuration to the unified installer. It didn't seem difficult at the time, but I would have to refresh my memory.

Hi @tkimnguyen

Via IRC chat @smcmahon said me how done it:

You may specify --template= to pick a file to use as a template for the
buildout.cfg file. The file must be located in buildout_templates, and should
be generally modified on the buildout.cfg included with the installer. The
safest customizations will be to add eggs, parts or version pinnings.

This is from README.txt from UnifiedInstaller :wink:

Although I understand that @ericof used another technology to build Plone distributions?

This week we will meet some plonistas from two Venezuelan universities to discuss this PloneEdu distrubution.

I just asked Érico what was used or who did it - will let you know. Maybe someone at Interlegis or @hvelarde knows?

Nothing like looking things up in the docs. :slight_smile: There is a PloneEdu buildout page still being edited but I will give logged I users read permission. That could be the basis for the .cfg you use with the unified installer. We also need to ask PloneEdu readers what add ons they use too, similar to the http://paragon.plone.org effort.

Could you ask those two university colleagues to fill out a PloneEdu member profile and at least a short success story? Forms are about to be published on the http://Plone.org/edu site.

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Here is the draft PloneEdu add ons page. You'll need to log in to view it. Please post comments here for now if you want to suggest changes.

https://plone.org/community/edu/ploneedu-addons

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Email has gone out to the mailing list, with instructions on how to set up email notifications for any new posts to the PloneEdu category. I will post those instructions here later.

I posted instructions on how to set up forum email notifications here:

On 09/11/14 15:16, macagua wrote:

Although I understand that @ericof
used another technology to build Plone distributions?

Yes, he showed me at Ploneconf e.g. overrides to the ++add++PloneSite
view. We will probably work on something like that in Plone Intranet,
and I'm interested in the unified installer (and Vagrant/Docker images)
as well.

What's the best way to share knowledge on these kinds of tasks? Posting
IRC snippets on a mailing list feels like a lossy communication channel
to me :-). I would rather like to build a HOWTO together. Should we
create a section on docs.plone.org? Any other proposal?

:*CU#

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What's the best way to share knowledge on these kinds of tasks?

Soon, a Plone Intranet instance ;->

J

I'll create a folder where logged in users can edit, add, etc. Should it be publicly visible yet? Might be best to wait until the information there has had time to "gestate" before putting it on docs.plone.org.

I've create this folder where logged in users can add, edit, view:

https://plone.org/community/edu/intranet/

At some point we can take pages that are "ready" and publish them or move them out of the intranet.

Thank you for your contribution!

Does anyone know how to enable a nav portlet or equivalent on Plone.org?

I've reworked the "activities" part of the front page of http://plone.org/edu to include a link to our new intranet folder under the "Contribute Content" subheading.

Contribute Content

Jump into our intranet and build our communal expertise on how we use Plone in education. Develop documentation (e.g. HOWTOs, recipes for deployment, training manuals and videos) in preparation for moving to http://docs.plone.org. (Login required)