Minutes of previous meeting posted at:
Attending: Rikupekka, Sally, William, Norbert, Erico (Fulvio can't make it)
Focus: plone.org improvement
Marketing meeting - Rikupekka, Erico, William, Norbert, Sally
Topic this meeting is plone.org
Short round on how people feel about it
- One of the biggest problems was branding issue. What Is Plone helped us get a grip on that and partially solved it
- Agrees What Is Plone helps. Tagging content had him remembering how things used to be - there were lots of people contributing news content, very vibrant, we need to think about how to get back to this
- Does not have a strong vision for where to go, sees himself in a support role, agrees about What Is Plone
- Wants to put big 2021 re-do on back burner and focus on improving what we have before the conference, there is a lot of good stuff there. Improve content and also styling
- Looked at sitemap and proposed some reorganizing. Really likes the What Is Plone section and thinks that we could use that as a model for other improvements. No progress yet on CSS tweaks and tags
Discussion of plone.org section improvements
- Frontpage - idea for improvements
- Related sites don't look like links, needs styling
- The related sites ordering is no longer relevant, need to rethink
- Erico looked into how this part of the page is driven
- Less text on related sites, maybe horizontal tiles
- News and Events should be side by side, related sites pushed down
- Events has an "Add Events" CTA, News needs the same
- Presentation of Events is good, News is not
- The stats under Community Activity are out of date, they are updated manually. Is there a script somewhere? Ask Victor. Should the marketing team be responsible for updating at each meeting?
- Numbers at the top need to be reviewed
- Sponsor logos need to be on white and fix padding and vertical alignment
- Blue vs red buttons - works on front page design - Maybe they should
always be blue unless an important CTA in a blue header, then should
be red (like Sponsors) - Links in the footer look nice but the links need to be updated (like Roadmap, Newsletter) - assign someone to review, fix what can be easily fixed and make a list that needs discussion
- Erico says he can change the structure of footer links in an hour
or 2 if we want - [Side issue: AI team is discussing moving the Mailman lists to Google
Groups)] - Get Started page looks good!
- Community page has OK look but needs content improvement
- There are ideas in the plone.org improvement doc
- Header navigation
- Suggestions for improvements to top level nav in the
sitemap spreadsheet- Hates the More section, no one clicks on More!
- The black top header to go from one major site to another (from
Docs to Training to Community to plone.org to plone.com) is still
a good idea but needs an update for what sites are on it, and needs to be carried out consistently on the other sites (and get rid of Jobs!) - But the actual plone.org header nav needs to be made much more useful
- Fix the top level to be more hierarchical and have that drive header nav like a good CMS! (That's why we have a More dropdown, because there are 25 things in the site root...)
- Problem: Community site dilutes contributions to p.org news and
general activity on p.org - Marketing team should cherry pick items to push onto p.org news
- Can we have an RSS feed from community to bring action to the frontpage? Maybe not because it would be uncurated.
- Announcements category?
- Should Team minutes be on plone.org instead of community? We think so
- The role of p.org is up for grabs - is it where the minutes and files
are all kept, or is it something else? - If related to Foundation, p.org should be the canonical location
- Find out why people don't contribute to plone.org - some people say it is
too hard! Can we fix this? Anyone who logs in can create a draft, so
what is the problem. Maybe that they need to create a profile when they first log in- Maybe we need to push a message to the community that plone.org is your
site and everyone is welcome to contribute - news item?
- Maybe we need to push a message to the community that plone.org is your
- Changes to plone.org theme need to be staged on Fulvio's site first
And also
- Need to choose a Plone hero to write about in October => Chrissy - and her ninja training videos
Action items:
- Rikupekka - review footer links, fix what can be easily fixed
and make a list of what needs discussion, including possible restructure - Sally - send everyone byline proposal and eveyone respond
- Sally - clean up old tags, as proposed
- Sally - news item for What Is Plone section (old action item)
- Norbert and Fulvio - progress on plone.org styling tweaks on staging site -
From Plone.org Ideas doc: - Body font too small, looks old fashioned
- Long titles or descriptions throw off the tiled design,
for example Support, Security
(Solution could be to police content, your call) - Would be nice if font style were close to Volto/Pastanaga fonts
- Description text has too low contrast (accessibility problem) -
a slightly darker grey/black would do (run accessibility test) - Everyone - review structure of Events section
Be ready to discuss improvements next meeting - Everyone - review Norbert's and eveyone's suggestions for IA and header nav
on the "Plone.org Sitemap" Google spreadsheet
Be ready to discuss next meeting - Everyone - finish tagging your news items - ask Erico for advice if a
collection for one of the old years doesn't work right
Need volunteers for:
- Propose changes to Related Sites section on homepage (which site, what order,
what text)
==> Erico? (Sally will help with text changes) - Propose changes to universal top navbar (black)
==> Rikupekka? - Inventory site for use of red call to action buttons and propose which
(if any) should stay red (new sheet on Plone.org Sitemap spreadsheet)
==> William? - Document in Style Guide how to create a Blue CTA button in WYSIWYG
Document in Resources how to create a Red CTA button and that they are
appropriate
==> Fulvio? - Ask Victor what's the source of the stats on the homepage (Community Activity
and numbers at the top) and figure out an easy way for us to update
regularly
==> Rikupekka or Erico?