Went to a local drupal meetup last night.
Here's some brief notes
BigPipe - thry said a drupal version soon will support bigpipe. https://m.facebook.com/notes/facebook-engineering/bigpipe-pipelining-web-pages-for-high-performance/389414033919/ . This looks like an interesting idea that could perhaps become part of mosaic? @datakurre? Faster page loading might be a good reason accept less flexibility with theming that a grid system will likely impose.
A talk was about their migrator. Its really not that much different from transmogrifier. Except their plugins can use other plugins as argumetns which is nice. uses yaml. Drupal are building a ui for theirs.
And they can connect the old and new db at the same time and do the conversion in one process
But then they apparently have no other way to do an upgrade. They don't do inplace upgrades. The idea of not having to code to transform your old custom content types into your new ones is not a bad idea.
They mentioned how much they said drupal was point and click. Less coding. I didn't realise that. I heard it was more like plone. More complex to integrate with than wordpress. They mentioned things like views which let you build up sql queries interactively. They mentioned the lots of clicking thing as bad thing but thats to be expected by professional programmers. Fact is it could be one thing getting people to start with drupal.
They did mention that drupal 8 has a lot more to understand to integrate with it. Seems like they have gone for a similar route of wanting to make their stack more robust under the hood so its easier to maintain, at the expense of complexity for integrators. One guy mentioned he never had to use an IDE before. Just text editors. Now PHP storm is a must to help him.
Another talk was about integrating with 3rd party services. One was imgIX which is a CDN doing scaling and image transformations. Sounds like a nice thing have transparently work with plones image scaling.
There was also a lot of talk of specialised drupal hosters esp the ones providing a heroku code only deploy type service. Another thing thats nice about a big ecosystem that can support this.