Volto Team Meeting Notes 2021-10-12

2021-10-12

Attendees

  • Victor
  • Timo
  • Alin
  • Alex
  • Tiberiu
  • David
  • Katja
  • Piero

Agenda

  • Modern Image Scales PLIP (Support for modern image scales (Plone 6) · Issue #3279 · plone/Products.CMFPlone · GitHub)
    • What image scales do we want in Plone 6?
    • Do we want the same image scales that Plone Classic uses?
    • We are not using
      • tile 64:64
      • icon 32:32
      • listing 16:16
    • We` are purging the Plone classic
  • Teaser Block
    • Existing implementations
      • kitconcept (part of grid-block)
      • redturtle (2 implementations)
      • eau de web/eea (use kitconcept grid block)
    • We want the teaser block in core in the long run
    • -> move teaser from @kitconcept/volto-blocks-grid to Core
    • -> Variant option (e.g. card) allows to plug in new variants
  • Grid Block
    • Existing implementations
      • kitconcept
        • focus is simplicity, ease of use, re-use existing blocks as subblocks
        • uses array to store “subblocks”
      • redturtle
        • simple, subblock approach
      • eau de web / eea
        • multi-dimensional, re-use engine, higher-level-component, wrapper for block, uses components that are in Volto core
    • -> our ideal core block will have the UX from kitconcept with the technical infrastructure of the eea block
  • Listing block uses fullobjects
  • Listing block performance issues (not: query)
  • plone.volto
    • 3.0.0a2 released (clone of kitconcept.volto)
    • 3.1.0a1 released (with a new image_field indexer)
  • New Seamless mode
    • The seamless mode was introduced in Volto 13
    • kitconcept was experiencing issues in the demo site and the ploneconf site
      • we worked on this because seamless makes docker deployments easier
      • issues
        • chrome caches the last calls to the site
          • you see json on the cache request
          • hard to overcome
        • hit the back button shows json
        • can lead to cache poisoning when using cloudflare etc. that ignores the vary header
        • request a private image in Volto, the request goes directly to plone and shows a login form
    • redturtle put it into production on a small site, no major issues so far
    • Re-think seamless mode
    • Deprecate old seamless mode?
      • in the long run, there should be one default way of doing things (both for plone.rest and Volto)
      • “seamless mode” should just become the default and does not need its own way
      • new traversal method should become the default for plone.restapi as well (in the long run)
    • we will use the new traversal for the ploneconf site
    • kitconcept will start using it and others should do the same
    • bake the ++ traversal into Volto as a default
      • allow people to add a configuration option to keep the old behavior
  • plone.restapi 7.x.x branch
    • needs lots of backports
    • eau de web is main consumer (Plone 4 sites that run with Volto)
    • redturtle has a couple sites, not for Volto
    • Timo is happy to hand over responsibilities for plone.restapi 7.x.x, either as “release monkey”, that just does releases or entirely (that would need to be discussed with the release team though)
    • we need to make sure plone.restapi 7.x.x does not introduce any breaking changes though (otherwise it would need to become plone.restapi 8 and collide with the 8 branch)
  • Plone Conference / Fanzone
    • Most of the team members will meet in Sorrento!
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