I don't know how much this is all related, but something seems to be not working with TinyMCE configs in 6.1 with the menubar/menu settings and plugins. On a new 6.1.1 classic site, "File" is put in the menubar and "Help" appears whether or not I have put it in the menubar (and regardless of whether that plugin is enabled), as an example.
Do you know why the classic demo has a working menubar (Help and other plugins still broken) but, as far as I can tell, not a new default Plone 6.1.1 site? Has the demo site diverged from https://dist.plone.org/release/6.1.1/constraints.txt in some way? I thought that might offer a clue.
Looks like it to me. Regardless, I need this to work before we can move our sites to 6.1. Any ideas for a workaround? If there's a change I can make on the python end to modify what is sent to pat-tinymce that would be nice, but if it's a problem with pat-tinymce I imagine there is not an easy workaround...
It's a problem in pat-tinymce. i have locally here a patch and would make a PR in mockup. but the mockup heros @petschki or @thet must review my attempt
Thanks for looking into this this @petschki. I tested OOTB sites on two different computers, in different OS, with barebones uv pip install, and with cookieplone - and got the same behavior where it didn't respect the menubar. I don't know why you got different, but it's probably moot because the 6.1.2 release seems to fix it. Now that that version is out, we should be able to just upgrade to that and leave this mystery as purely academic.