Below is what I remember. I didn't take notes. Sorry its so rough and probably misses many things.
Discussion was a few fronts
- How much layout is enough?
- volto is currently deliberately limited. It's focus is on a medium like, content editor focus. It only allows single column. Nothing side by side
- mosaic was seen by many as allowing too much layout in particular how it can result ugly sites. I think gutenburg fell into "too much layout" camp too.
- but is there a usecase for ugly sites?
- discussion on webmaster, small organisations who can't afford expensive developers everytime they want some additional layout vs bigger organisations whose spend a lot on brand and website and want every page well designed.
- discussion on different layout editors, including some where number of columns or sizing was a kind of tile of its own rather than like mosaic where the colunns and grids are worked out automaticly based on how you dragged around the tiles. I didn't have the example during the meeting but the one I was referring to is shown here https://rawgit.com/Kademi/keditor/master/examples/basic_with_content.html. Not very use friendly but shows the different approach than mosaic.
- discussion went on to what would be the min amount of layout that would work for some real usecases like @polyester NGO type sites. The consensus there seemed to be the ability to have 2-4 cols but I can't remember if this is mainly for text or feature type boxes.
- sitelayouts/portlets/whole page layout
- there wasn't that much discussion on it.
- Seems no one there uses the mosaic concept of sitelayouts (for example I tend to use mosaic as a landing page system and still use portlets)
- general agreement that still need the concept a tiles/portlets that appear on many pages
Then the openspace finished and there was another session during the sprint that was only focused on pastanaga layout and the volto implementation. This was mainly about what tiles are first to implement with a bit about layout.
@Albert did discuss his idea about how to add multiple columns in a simple way to the volto (medium like) editor. It might be better for him to keep refining it but the general idea was not to do DND with tiles but a sort of "split col" button that moves the current tile up and to the right of the one above it. I think this implied that when you had multiple tiles stacked in each column they didn't line up horizontally like a grid. Albert and I had discussions on how support a grid type layout perhaps along the lines of grouping tiles into blocks that should be kept together vertically and below that there should be a "clear" or grid horizontal alignment. No real conclusions on this though.
All of this though still leaves us in a kind of no mans land for layout. Mosaic looks unlikely to get much support. Volto is being worked on but requires a whole different way of theming that is probably going to be only suitable for expensive sites for awhile yet. Taking another supported open source layout editor and integrating it into plone didn't really get discussed much.